S.E., a journeyperson pipefitter with Consumers Energy and member of UWUA- Utility Workers Union of America grew up in Detroit and graduated from Marygrove College. S.E. started working for Consumers as a part-time dispatcher and then worked as a meter reader for 4.5 years. S. E. describes her training and recalls that as a woman she was not given the full amount of training that the men received. S.E. discusses the shortage of pipefitters and how this had led to their schooling being cut short. S. E. became a union rep in 1990. She attended the Latino Workers Leadership Institute and has since volunteered at a variety of conferences, has become involved in committees, and organized for the union on the national level. S.E. concludes the interview with a discussion of her current union involvement, why so few women are in the trades, and the changes in working conditions in her trade.